Time for more abstract and philosophical analysis, possibly blasphemous but certainly something to consider.
Figure all of us monotheists – as opposed to atheists or polytheists – are attempting, in some way, shape or form, at our own paces, to climb that summit and reach the top. Catholics take the North approach, non-Catholic Christians take the East approach, Jews take the South approach, Muslims take the West approach, and so forth. Then figure there are Sunnis vs. Shi’ites, Orthodox vs. Conservative vs. Reform Jews, all sorts of Protestant religions and the Eastern Orthodox churches. Each is trying to reach the summit from a different direction and each claims that the others’ way is wrong. But we all know and accept that the summit – the God – is the same, but we argue that the means by which we try to reach Him, is itself so important as to trump everything else. As if, upon reaching God at the top, God turns to us and asks, “well, thank you very much for coming up here. By the way, how did you get here?” “Uh, I came up from the South.” And God goes nuts and says, “INFIDEL!!! You blasphemer! Didn’t I send Mohammed down there to tell you to come up the West way? What is wrong with you?? Begone!”
This is why I find religious intolerance among fellow monotheists to be so idiotic – especially when it reaches the point of KILLING others simply because their particular form of monotheism is different. Again, back to my example: you get to the top and say HI to God, and tell him, “Oh, by the way, there were some Jews coming up by the South approach, we killed them. Pretty good, huh?” And God will say, “Way to go, Abdullah! Here are your virgins!” Granted, back in the Middle Ages (a long, long time ago) the Christian Crusaders decided that the Muslim way was so wrong that it merited termination. And we have no shortage of anti-Semitism to observe, perpetrated both by Christians and Muslims, although this form of discrimination appears to be racially motivated rather than due to any religious differences. To me it’s all stupid. Who cares how we get up the mountain? And are we so sure that God cares, that we’re going to kill anyone going up the mountain the wrong way?
1. Jonah and the whale. God asked Jonah to go to Nineveh and tell the people there to shape up. Jonah thought to himself…. “nah….”. And so he ended up in the whale. And then he thought, “this sucks, maybe I should go to Nineveh after all.” And he did. The whale was just God’s way of being persuasive – and it worked.
2. Joseph & Mary. Joseph was due to be Mary’s husband, but found she was already pregnant. Not good – he was inclined to call it off. But the angel came and backed up Mary’s “conceived by God” story (of which I’m sure Joseph had probably been somewhat skeptical), so he decided to go along with it. This was not an angel with a shotgun.
3. Three Wise Men. Herod wanted them to come back after seeing Jesus and fill him on the Manger location – so he could have Jesus killed. The angels sent the Wise Men a dream and advised them to take an alternate route home. Once again, very persuasive angels – the Three Wise Men took another route, Herod was not able to have baby Jesus terminated before Mary and Joseph escaped to Egypt .
I tend to zone out during the homily. There are really only so many different ways the priest can basically say, “Jesus died for you, be good, m’kay?” Too many are off in the stratosphere of abstract discussion. Occasionally the priest gets cute; one time the first two rows were Boy Scouts and Cub Scouts, so the priest said that Jesus’ 40 days in the desert was like a “camping trip”. It’s a rare priest who can reconcile the abstract with the concrete and keep my attention. Then of course, one of the priests is Father Shakedown, who monotonously recites all the huge bills the church has (“that air conditioning in this huge place isn’t free, people! Cough it up!”).
Then there are the IKEA churches: someone studied the schematics of Merriweather Post Pavilion or the Nissan Pavilion, because the seating is ampitheater style, in a large fan radiating out from the altar. The imagery, to the extent there is any, has a sparse, abstract feel to it, like Pablo Picasso designed it. I suppose this was some movement in the 60s or 70s to modernize the Church and distance it from the archaic medieval feel it once had. These are churches for the automobile, Internet, cell phone age, as if to say that religion isn't some irrelevant anachronism from medieval times, but still relevant and meaningful to us even today. Both styles have their supporters and virtues.
I've even seen churches which were converted from movie theaters, either as temporary expedients or permanent arrangements, but in that case we're really stretching the envelope of what we can consider a "church". Maybe it was officially blessed or consecrated by the appropriate bishop, but it certainly doesn't feel like a church.
Having been to Egypt , I’ve been to mosques. After being used to churches filled with pews, mosques are kind of bizarre: no seats, just tons of carpets to kneel down and pray on. Needless to say, I was a visitor and not praying to Allah myself.
When I visited the USSR in 1983, part of the tour – Kiev , Moscow and Leningrad – was countless Russian Orthodox churches and monestaries. ZZZZ. They’re all the same: chock full of Cyrillic lettering and icons. There’s a Romanian Orthodox Church across the street from me, which has a similar deal, though the lettering is Roman, and the language is Romanian. But style-wise it’s almost identical. And the service is in Romanian, which I don’t speak, except “va rog” and “multumesc”, and some naughty words like “pizda” and “pula” (unlikely to be heard in a mass, anyway). But of all the Romance languages, Romanian is by far the closest to the source language, Latin.
OK, looking for some enlightenment here. i'm sure you will think im lame, but, can you tell me what a monothiest and a polythiest is?
ReplyDeleteOf course i kno an athiest is someone that does not beleive in God at all, and then there are the fence rider agnostits.
Your experience of places you have been is wonderful. How did you manage to go to so many places?
Oh, gee.... i'm being slow, 'mono' thiests beleive in ONE God, and 'poly'thiests beleive in many god's.
Duh.... sorry
Re: The answer is: God can’t stop it.
ReplyDeleteI had the pleasure of engaging in a deep conversation with a very devout Muslim. I mentioned that in my world, prayers to God should be limited to only the most important and necessary wishes. She asked why I thought that, and I honestly didn't know why -- I just did.
Her take on the matter was the God is all-knowing, all powerful, omnipotent (and the copy of the Koran she gave me backs this up). With God being so powerful, He indeed is able to control every aspect of our lives. Not only ours, but those of the smallest ant as well. Therefore, her recommendation was go ahead and pray for a safe drive into work, or that the next meal I have be satisfying. He will grant these to me if he so chooses.
Did God allow so much destruction in the gas chambers or by machine guns? He did, and it is not in our power to understand why, only He knows.
I suppose the same God who lets all this happen is the one who tells them to kill Infidels for 72 virgins. What nonsense. How is it that Jesus, who preached "turn the other cheek" and nonviolence, is invoked to justify violence? But of course, the USSR was technically atheist, and we know how much blood is on Lenin and Stalin's hands - not to mention Pol Pot.
ReplyDeleteGod himself caused massed destruction by way of the floods. Thank god Noah got his act together and built the ark -- otherwise we wouldn't be here about ready to head out for some groceries... oh wait, maybe that's just me. :-)
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